Well I think for student withdraw have to be passing with some problem and they feel that is too much with school and they personal life
From mine experience I have notice here at school that some student to not have the skills to take on education and deal with issues in their personal life. Ther think that is too much going on in threre persdonal life and school at the same time and that can be hard and can be a little owerwhrlm for them.
Our most common reason for withdrawal is the inability for students to overcome personal obstacles while maintaining their school work. They become in engrossed in what is keeping them from what they want and fall victim to it instead of working around it to acheive their goals.
Alainna,
Hi! How can you best assist students to overcome their own personal obstacles?
Cindy Bryant
Dayanis,
On every campus time is spent analyzing data to better understand why students leave school. Maybe it is time to look at what we do right by analyzing the students that remain. Could this be the key to our success??
Cindy Bryant
There are many reasons that students in our institution withdraw from our program before they graduate. In many cases, the students have financial hardships which lead to housing issues, inability to afford food, and difficulties with finding reliable transportation. This is due to the fact that many of our students live from paycheck to paycheck and a slight disruption in their work schedule, to make room for school, can have a great impact on their financial success. I have had some students approach me about taking out a loan to make ends meet while they're in school. I strongly discourage them from doing this, because in the long run, this is not in the student's best interest. I remind them that any loans that they take out will have to be repaid, plus interest; and our goal is to minimize the amount of loans a student borrows so that they do not have as much to repay when they finish school.
Sterling,
You are giving your students great advice. The loan process delays the inevitable which is the fact that sometimes you have to make money as opposed to following a dream. However, you can pursue your educational dream at a slower pace and still make money.
Cindy Bryant
I see students leave for a variety of reasons. At my school, students often have to quit because of financial reasons. Many of the students are not working while going to school and those who have to do both find that the demands of the program are too great coupled with working, often full time.
Another reason is that some of the students are not prepared for the rigorous academics and become overwhelmed and do poorly in their coursework.
Jason,
I thought I would share that many people thought that there would be a "huge" impact on retention rates due to the new federal guidelines. To date there have been limited data to support this theory.
As long as our student demographic remains the underserved they will more than likely bring unique challenges to the table, such as: single parenting, lack of support system, lower paying jobs. This will force them to make decisions that may keep them from pursuing education.
Cindy Bryant
I believe a lot of student's withdraw from my institution due to personal reasons. Many of our students are parents that cannot find the proper care for their children and the student suffers the consequence of not finishing their schooling. I also believe students get worried about committing to a program and panic and feel the best way to handle that is to drop from the institution.
Kelly,
Hi! Welcome to the forum. Does your school offer any type of referral program for student services?
Cindy Bryant
People have many challenges,and some people finds
employment.
Debbie,
Hi! Many students (and society) have challenges that preempt school and other activities. When you mention employment, do you feel that they find employment in their field of study or just any type of employment? I mention this because many accrediting bodies will allow a school to consider a student placed if they attained the position due to their new skills and education.
Cindy Bryant
they have problem that come up that make the have to withdraw.
Well the first reason a student drops from a program is they are not able to do the work whether due to ability or outside reason such as family and work.
Another reason students may drop is that they find out they were lied to. Either being told they will not have to make any kind of cash payments to the school, or the regulations for certification in their perspective fields.
When we do our student orientations and it is my turn to speak I always begin with this...
"Your past does not have to define your future" and then I proceed to try and help them understand that all of the choices that they have made to this point in their lives and career-have gotten them to where they are. Good choices, poor choices-all have consequences and, as they begin school some of those consequences will be following them so, when they feel overwhelmed, unable to cope, discouraged and ready to quit, like others who have posted, all of our staff and instructors endeavor to go beyond the how are you and take the time to dig without prying.
In that way, what may be an initial reason becomes something that we are able to help them walk through which will enable them not only to stay in school but improve their lives outside of school.
Our School is quite unique, we teach watchmaking as a career. the program is two years, full time and quite intense. in our 8 years of existence, we have had jsut 2 people leave the school. ine by choice, adn one by request.
the person that withdrew realized ager the first practical assesment that this career choice was not for them.
watchmaking is a very intricate occupation that not only needs skill, but passion as well. success is dependent on the persons ability to come to work each day and bring their very best, because if they do not then it will be a wasted day at their workbench
I think students really don't expect our program to be as difficult as it is. Even though they speak to our instructors and our Admissions reps go through all the classes they will be taking and the requirements in their initial appointment. I don't think they really grasp that they have to work to complete our program.
For an administrator, it's hard not to take a student's withdrawal personally and empathize with their situation that catalyzed their withdrawal.
My institution has a majority of international students. By far, the number one reason a student may withdraw would be visa-related.
For one reason or another, a student's visa standing is no longer good. For example, a student gets a DUI, goes home for the holiday and cannot return to the states because of the felony resulting from the DUI.
Another reason may be a change in their visa status, going from an F-1 to receiving their green card or work authorization.
Every now and then, a personal matter will prevent the student from continuing their education such as a loss of a parent or a child. When a student does not have the mental focus to succeed in the course, it is met with poor grades, low attendance and the eventual withdrawal.
For the above reasons, it is very important that the student understand the consequences of all of their actions, especially following the letter of the law. One stupid mistake can take away the student's opportunity to finish their education.
I think that many people do not have a strong understanding of the commitment it takes to go to class everyday and be responsible for homework and their own learning. I tell my prospective students. "college is hard" This is also a perfect time to assure students that we have resources in place like student ambassadors and turors. I ask prospective students to tell me what they think their biggest challenge is going to be. Even with all of that.... Life gets in the way. It is a great reminder that as admissions reps we reach into our last few classes and simply ask how they are doing. We are so attentive when trying to get them enrolled and through the process. Once they are a number and sitting in class after the add/drop we have moved on to the next start. That is the nature of the Biz but attrition speaks volumes as well. Maybe we need to spend more time in the interview asking them what will trip them up instead of"selling" our school.
